Today on The Maintainers, we have André Bezerra, a Maintenance Technician at Petersen Precision Engineering. André, who is a mechatronics engineer, shares his background and experiences in the field. He talks about his passion for robotics and emphasizes the importance of mechatronics in today's industry, where automation and IoT sensors are becoming more prevalent. You'll hear how the team at Petersen Precision Engineering focuses on trust, continuous improvement, and investing in the right tools and resources when planning for the future.
Today on The Maintainers, we have André Bezerra, a Maintenance Technician at Petersen Precision Engineering. André, who is a mechatronics engineer, shares his background and experiences in the field. He talks about his passion for robotics and emphasizes the importance of mechatronics in today's industry, where automation and IoT sensors are becoming more prevalent. He advises that having a combination of electronics and mechanical knowledge is crucial for understanding and improving maintenance processes.
André also discusses his unique experiences in building various projects, such as a sea turtle submarine and a pizza delivery robot. He highlights the importance of being curious and hands-on when pursuing a career in mechatronics engineering. André encourages aspiring engineers to have a solid foundation in mechanics, electronics, logic programming, and the ability to read schematics. He emphasizes the need to understand how the machine works, beyond what the operators see, to troubleshoot and fix problems effectively.
In terms of improving maintenance and manufacturing processes, André explains how Petersen Precision Engineering, a company with over 55 years of history, focuses on trust, continuous improvement, and investing in the right tools and resources. He discusses their plans for the future, which include upgrading equipment, modernizing the factory, and improving data acquisition and monitoring systems. André talks about the bottom-up approach, where improvement ideas come from the employees who deal with day-to-day challenges. He emphasizes the importance of recording and tracking maintenance history to create better procedures and minimize downtime.
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Guest Bio
André Bezzera is a Maintenance Technician at Petersen Precision Engineering. With a background in mechatronics engineering, André brings a unique combination of electrical and mechanical engineering expertise to his role. Born in Brazil, André has always had a passion for science and technology. His curiosity and hands-on approach led him to pursue a career where he could be involved in building and creating robotics and automation systems. André's impressive projects include building a sea turtle-inspired submarine, a pizza delivery robot, and exoskeletons. These projects have not only showcased his technical skills but also his commitment to innovation and problem-solving.
As a Maintenance Technician, André plays a crucial role in ensuring the smooth functioning of Petersen Precision Engineering’s CNC machines and other equipment. His focus on continuous improvement and his ability to troubleshoot complex issues have made him an invaluable asset to the company.
Outside of work, André enjoys exploring the outdoors and connecting with nature. Through his work and personal interests, André continues to inspire others to pursue careers in mechatronics and contribute to the advancement of automation and robotics in various industries.
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Guest Quote
"Improving those kind of systems in the company comes from the top to bottom. But actually dealing with the day to day life here, a person comes mostly from the bottom up, because they're always open minded to receive ideas and solutions that might help us improve. Whatever we can do to make the operators work in a more comfortable way, we're always improving that kind of thing.” – André Bezerra
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Time Stamps
*(02:11) Opening Ice Breaker
*(02:42) Andre's background as a mechatronics engineer
*(05:37) What inspired Andre to build his own submarine
*(07:13) Segment 01: The Maintainer Mashup
*(07:33) What makes Petersen Precisien unique
*(09:07) Why you need to stay up date with technological innovations
*(10:56) Segment 02: What's in Your Toolkit?
*(11:29) Comparing the manufacturing of the US to Brazil
*(12:22) Reducing downtime at any cost
*(15:44) Advice for others in the industry
*(18:14) Segment 03: The Future of Factories
*(18:48) Why Andre is building a five year plan for Petersen Precision
*(22:36) Identifying opportunities from the bottom up
*(24:30) Segment 04: Fix It Funnies
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[00:00:00] André Bezzera: Maintenance. Maybe we should call it maintenance. I'll fix it. I'm going to fix it. Concentrated. Maintain it. Maintain control. Maintenance complete.
[00:00:15] David Lee: This is The Maintainers, a Blue Cap Community Podcast. My name is David Lee, Director at Traction and your host for The Maintainers Show. And I'm Jake
[00:00:22] Jake Hall: Hall, the Manufacturing Millennium.
[00:00:24] Jake Hall: And we're super excited to have another amazing episode and guest, Andre Bezzera, who is the Maintenance Technician at Petersen Precision Engineering. Uh, he has an incredible background and a lot of great stories to share. He's a mechatronics engineer, who we don't know that is, is a combination between electrical and mechanical engineering.
[00:00:44] Jake Hall: And he has some amazing experiences from building a submarine. Exoskeletons, a pizza delivery robot, and so much more. But recently he joined his first US role, coming to the US after being born in Brazil, to share his experiences and story today. But first, a word from our sponsor.
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[00:01:31] Jake Hall: Well, thanks for joining us today, Andre. First of all, how
[00:01:34] André Bezzera: are you doing today? I'm doing pretty good. Little bit nervous to be here on the podcast, but very excited. Well,
[00:01:42] Jake Hall: we're super excited for you to be here. And now, how long have you been in
[00:01:45] André Bezzera: the US for?
[00:01:47] André Bezzera: Well, I've been back and forth since half of my family already lives here for a while now. And I've always been in touch, but actually for the past three years, four years now that I've actually been living here to actually settle down, uh, get a visit for my, my job, and I only got it because of my experience as a mechatronics engineer, so I'm very grateful for that.
[00:02:10] Jake Hall: Awesome. So you've been in the U. S. for a couple years now. Any, with winter coming up, are there any winter excursions or places or activities that you want to do now that you kind of
[00:02:20] David Lee: have some more time?
[00:02:22] André Bezzera: Yes, actually, I love snowboarding, I love the snow, and there's a great place here close to San Francisco, which is called Lake Tahoe, and it's a great place to meet, to go snowboarding, go camping, sightseeing, it's really amazing to get in touch with nature, so that's what I like to do.
[00:02:41] André Bezzera: Awesome.
[00:02:42] David Lee: Yeah, so Obviously with your background, specifically being a mechatronics engineer, I remember the moment when I was in college and I saw a textbook in the library of mechatronics engineering. At that time, didn't even know what it is, so tell us a little bit more about your background and essentially how you got where you are today, or more so how you got started in your current role.
[00:03:04] André Bezzera: So, um, I'm a curious person by nature, uh, always liked science and technology, and I really am a hands on kind of person, so I really want to be close to the action, close to the equipment. And I really wanted to do more than just being a mechanical engineer, just working with the mechanical parts. I really love robots and I know that the technology has been improving ever so fast and I really want to be To build the whole thing, not just one part of a machine or something or other.
[00:03:39] André Bezzera: And that's when I came across, right, researching books, uh, to the name of Mechatronics, that really embody the whole mentality of everything. A little bit of everything, it's a generally Of course, but it's very interesting to know that also Megatron is focused primarily on control, control systems, development of automation.
[00:04:06] André Bezzera: So it's not just about building a machine or robots, but about data analysis, about mathematics and programming. Of machines and whole plant systems.
[00:04:19] Jake Hall: So do you feel that there's a, an increase in demand for mechatronics engineers as like these industries evolve and grow?
[00:04:27] André Bezzera: Exactly. The more automation, the more of IOT sensors that we have, the more about machine learning, that's all in the field of mechatronics.
[00:04:37] André Bezzera: And if you really have just the aspects of electronics, you don't really know what's going on on the side of the hydraulic presses, on the side of grindings, of the side of pneumatics. So if you really have a little bit of both understanding how the mechanical part of the machine works and how the electronics can help you reproduce that signal so it can be computerized, And ANALYZE has a control signal.
[00:05:09] André Bezzera: That's where mechatronics lies. That's the edge of technology as we go forward with automation.
[00:05:17] Jake Hall: So, you know, with that role, there's a lot of different experiences that are there. Can you tell us about, like, your experiences of building things, right? You know, you talked about a submarine. Pizza delivery robot, exoskeletons.
[00:05:29] Jake Hall: I mean, these are all hobbies or projects, you know, that you kind of just sit in the side like, how did you get those unique experiences and backgrounds? Yes,
[00:05:38] André Bezzera: uh, as mentioned, I was born in Brazil, close to the beach, and we have a great coral reef next to our city. And we also have, in this beach, there's a lot of sea turtles that go lay their eggs over there every year.
[00:05:53] André Bezzera: So, I'm always passionate about nature, getting in touch with nature, as I mentioned before. And I really wanted to do something in that mixture, so I came across with the research from Switzerland that they built this super amazing sea turtle, uh, submarine. Moving as if it were a sea turtle animal, and I want to do that.
[00:06:18] André Bezzera: I think that really is going to capture the whole mechanical part where I have to build the parts for the, for the robot that I have to install the electronic components, and then that I have to program each of those components to actually work and behave like a sea turtle. So it took me like three years from college to build that.
[00:06:39] André Bezzera: It looked really amazing. It wasn't exactly as, as I dreamed of. We actually couldn't see swimming in the sea, but we did some amazing tests. It gave me a lot of learning and a lot of tools that I use later on, on my journey.
[00:06:57] David Lee: Awesome. Well, now that we know a little bit about you, or more about you, Andre, it's time for our first segment, the maintainer mashup, where we do a deep dive into management, teams, and equipment, so we can talk about how we make Maintenance more reliable.
[00:07:14] André Bezzera: Maintenance required. Listen, I maintain. I maintain the muscle. Maintain course. Maintain speed. I gotta maintain respect.
[00:07:25] David Lee: So can we hear a little bit about Petersen Precision Engineering and your role there, kind of on a day to day. So tell us about that.
[00:07:33] André Bezzera: So yeah, right here at Petersen Precision we have Uh, history of 55 or so years in the business of CNC machinery, fine blanking, grinding, metal fabrications.
[00:07:48] André Bezzera: Uh, so we have, uh, high production of lapping, process, EDM machine, deburring, finishing, hydraulic presses and CNCs. So, that's our role, we work a lot of, we build a lot of parts for aerospace and medical devices, scientific instruments, and yeah, it's a great place to work, it's a, it, we're always improving, uh, we have, we develop our own technology to, to create dyes, to create new machinery, to upgrade the old machines that we once had in late 60s, now we're improving.
[00:08:27] André Bezzera: Some of these machines, they're still here, but they have been rebuilt, remastered to keep up with the demand and the advance of technology as well. You know,
[00:08:37] Jake Hall: and I think you described a lot of manufacturers in general, right? There, you have equipment that's 40, 50, 60 years old. And, you know, as we continue to grow in the industry, productivity is, you know, higher demanded.
[00:08:52] Jake Hall: Uptime is higher demanded. The quality of parts is, is increasing. The production and quantity of parts is increasing. So I think you mentioned that you have like 50 CNC machines that are on the floor. I would assume some purchased in the last few years as
[00:09:07] André Bezzera: well. Yeah, we're actually in the process of already buying more equipment to keep up with the demand.
[00:09:13] André Bezzera: And we have all different kinds of brands from Mazak, Hiramuras, Makinos. We have an amazing team that supports us with repairs, with maintenance and from specialized team from all those companies as well. And yeah, I mean, it's all about keeping up with technology and upgrading equipment.
[00:09:35] David Lee: Got it. Yeah, so um, basically that modernization of the actual factory and things, you all are actively in that process there, and so that's uh, that's, that's good to hear.
[00:09:45] David Lee: So, Obviously, there's a lot of projects that are going on and have been going on to modernize CNC machines, change out assets and things like that. So, that leads us to our next segment, talking about your toolkit. But, before we go into this, could you talk briefly, uh, tell us a little bit about some projects that you all have been doing to modernize.
[00:10:05] David Lee: Obviously, like you mentioned, uh, getting new assets and things, but I'm sure you as a mechatronics engineer, there's a lot more to the story. Tell us a little
[00:10:13] André Bezzera: bit about that. So, yes, we have some hydraulic presses that were built in the 60s and have been upgraded with back off systems, PLC, and then they have been upgraded again and again.
[00:10:27] André Bezzera: We always had some very good engineers that worked before my time here. I just got here this year, so I haven't really been in a big project so far, but I have been upgrading the electrical cabinets for a lot of our machineries, of our lappings. And doing anything electrical really to help us control and minimize our downtime.
[00:10:53] Jake Hall: So we're going to move into the next section. What's in your toolkit?
[00:10:58] David Lee: We're going to fix it. Get the tool. Pick
[00:11:00] André Bezzera: the one right tool.
[00:11:03] Jake Hall: The
[00:11:03] André Bezzera: right tool for the right job.
[00:11:07] Jake Hall: So, you know, we've heard a little bit more about Petersen, the CNC machines that you have, how you guys operate. I want to talk more about how you as an individual have excelled, like how you have learned the tools and resources that have helped you grow. As a professional. So, you know, how do you view the U.
[00:11:26] Jake Hall: S. maintenance and manufacturing space coming from Brazil? I think a lot of, a lot of our audience or listeners probably have only, you know, heard of, of, of U. S. manufacturing and seen U. S. manufacturing. But from you, from a wider viewpoint, with a lot more, you know, experience in different, in different industries and the way we're adopting equipment, what do you see in terms of how they're similar and how
[00:11:47] André Bezzera: they're different?
[00:11:48] André Bezzera: Back in Brazil, there's a big gap in industry size. So, in my region, what would be a big company, they would have like 5 CNCs, and that would be a big company. Over here, we have a medium sized company going bigger and bigger. We have 3, uh, sites that we work, but still, we're still considered a medium company size.
[00:12:12] André Bezzera: Uh, that has already 50 CNCs. And It's a big deal, it's a lot of brands, different brands, different kinds of machinery, and the main thing that I think It's the difference is that over here, we don't count our expenses to, to minimize our spending limit. We just want to keep them upgraded. We want to do whatever we can to get them fixed, to get them running, to minimize downtime.
[00:12:43] André Bezzera: And, well, back in Brazil, sometimes you You wait a lot for things to break, or you use a lot of spare parts, parts that you have to really be creative about using what works for you. And over here, we do what we can to get the best tool available, not just Any regular screwdriver or any regular multimeter, we want the best.
[00:13:10] André Bezzera: Because we want to be able to keep up with that demand, we want to be able to be reliable, we want our equipment to last more than a decade, more than 20 years, more than 30 years. And I think that's a big deal here, to some
[00:13:25] Jake Hall: precision. So how would, how would you say, you know, from your experience walking into, I would say, a new culture in the manufacturing, right?
[00:13:32] Jake Hall: You know, it's this new ideology where you're planning for long term success, not just short term. I guess you could say results. How would you say the culture of the company has, has changed that? You know, you talk about the investments, you talk about, you know, planning ahead, but what were some things that you've learned in terms of how you create a successful culture that cultivates you as the individual to feel motivated to grow?
[00:13:59] André Bezzera: Yeah, this is one of the great things about working here is the trust when you hire someone, trust that he's going to be able to do the right job that he was hired to do. And also that you can always count on the company to have your back to, to like, look, this is what we need to work with. This part is going to work, but.
[00:14:24] André Bezzera: Maybe not so much not on the long run. This is actually the part that we need. This is actually the tool that we require and it's what's necessary and he says, do we have anything better than that? And I'm like, yeah, if you want to spend a few more thousand dollars then then do it then let's go Let's go with the more expensive one that is gonna be more reliable And when you have that mentality that you're not just fixing things or putting a plug in the hole You're actually Taking the chance that something broke to make it better, not to just replace it or have it running again, but to improve it.
[00:15:05] André Bezzera: Continuous improvement. That's our model over here.
[00:15:09] Jake Hall: And that's great that you focus on that, right? You know, creating better processes, you know, but I would say that also can go into, you know, things from your earlier career. You, you know, you kind of, you're, you're continuously looking for, you know, self learning, continued education.
[00:15:23] Jake Hall: What advice would you give then to younger people who might want to explore mechatronics engineering or becoming a mechatronics technician as a career? What advice would you give them, you know, that to, to encourage them to be a part of this industry or tidbits that you have learned to help drive their success forward?
[00:15:44] André Bezzera: Um, curiosity, and it's a big deal because you have to To really want to understand how that works, when you're going to fix a machine, you're not just seeing the symptoms and figuring out the problems. Sometimes to figure out the problems, you have to know how the machine works. It's not essential, but it's important.
[00:16:07] André Bezzera: And in terms of education, you should be able to Have your basics covered. Have your basics of mechanics, of electronics, of logic, programming, and be able to read schematics, whether it's mechanical drawings, whether it's electronic schematics, electrical books, hydraulic schematics. Being able to read those schematics, it's really gonna help you understand how the machine works because you can always ask somebody, but the operators, some of them have a lot of experience, some of them don't.
[00:16:46] André Bezzera: And a lot of the times they just over there to press buttons to follow a protocol list that they receive from the superiors. And you really want to be able to read the manuals, read the schematics, and troubleshoot what you need to do. Go right to the point where you need to go. Don't waste any time trying to fix problems that aren't there.
[00:17:10] André Bezzera: You have to be able to see beyond what an operator sees because he sees what the supervisors told them to see. But the machine can tell us a lot more information about how she works, how she operates. I think that's one of the biggest. Tool that you might want to have, being able to read schematics, being able to understand how the machine works, and of course being able to do the job that you have to do.
[00:17:41] André Bezzera: Yeah, so it sounds
[00:17:42] David Lee: like number one, you need to be committed to a multidisciplinary approach in really mastering different skill sets as opposed to like mechanical engineers just being obsessed with mechanics, electrical engineers, electrical things as such. So yeah, that, that actually, uh, that's. Good words for all the future generations of people who would like to get into mechatronics.
[00:18:02] David Lee: Uh, so which actually leads me to our next segment. And so the next segment is actually going to be on the futures of factories and essentially what you're seeing when it comes to trends in the industry. Meet the future. To our futures. What future? The
[00:18:20] Jake Hall: factory. My factory. Everybody's
[00:18:22] David Lee: factory. I love your factory.
[00:18:23] André Bezzera: My factory. My
[00:18:26] David Lee: laws. We know that you have been talking about the projects and modernization there at Petersen. However, I want to hear a little bit more about that because you did mention at one point in time that you had a five year plan to basically take you all from where you are now to the future that you envision.
[00:18:43] David Lee: So tell us a little bit about that. I think a lot of the audience would find that very
[00:18:47] André Bezzera: interesting. As I said before, I've been here for a year now. And after that time, we start to see a lot of opportunities that we encounter. If you can go to, you can always go to work and just do what you're told to do.
[00:19:05] André Bezzera: But as an engineer, you're always looking for improvements. You're always looking to do better. And, well, I haven't figured out all the details, but We have a vision about improving our data acquisition, improving how we can monitor our assets, uh, how we can improve the timing that it takes for us to do a repair, how to schedule better a repair, and how to record all those informations.
[00:19:39] André Bezzera: So we can create better procedures for the future. Because sometimes you can fix a machine and it was super easy or sometimes it was super complicated. But eventually you might forget what you did. You might forget step by steps what you did. And sometimes, especially on the mechanical side. That is very important.
[00:20:02] André Bezzera: Mechanical engineering is all about precision. It's all about method and patience. When you're taking apart a pallet changer, when you're taking apart an ATC arm, You have to really follow every screw that you took out, every steps that it takes for you to get to the seal that is leaking, to get to the part that it broke off, and changes, even a simple spring can be complicated, uh, thing to resolve.
[00:20:35] André Bezzera: And if you don't follow that process, if, if you don't have a record of what you did, uh, a history, Then it can be very confusing and you end up having to rely on third parties to come fix your machine Eventually when they have the time to do it when you could yourself been doing something that was already done before So yeah in that five year plan, we have a lot of upgrading to do.
[00:21:01] André Bezzera: We have a lot of Development still to be done. We are increasing our production Line, and I think that data acquisition, processing that information in a timeframe, in a timeline that actually works for us. Finding the right solution for the right problem that fits our company model and our business plan here.
[00:21:30] André Bezzera: Um, and it's all about control systems in mechatronics in general. You have a CISO control system where you have a single input and single output, or multiple inputs and multiple outputs. All that can be translated into maintenance. It can be translated into a recipe, a food system, a building, a LEGO system, a set.
[00:21:56] André Bezzera: But, um, it's all about getting the information that you have, uh, analyzing later. Make sure that how long it takes for for us to do that and Make it better. Improve it. Improve it. Record it. Track the history and Make it better And
[00:22:16] David Lee: then when you all are selecting what projects you're going to actually put effort and money behind, uh, what's that based off of?
[00:22:24] David Lee: Are you just looking at inefficiencies you're seeing? Is there business initiatives that are from the top down or where does that total vision essentially come from that, that you apply to this kind of five year plan?
[00:22:36] André Bezzera: So from my point, it's coming from the bottom up. So it's coming from my own experience here at the factory plant.
[00:22:45] André Bezzera: And what kind of issues that we're dealing the most of here? What kind of problems do we have to fix more and what kind of problems have to fix less? Eventually, as we evolve, we always get demands from our superiors as well. We need to improve this section, this area right here. We have some tumblers, we have some Recycling systems that we have in place for water treatment and for solvent.
[00:23:12] André Bezzera: Uh, we have great machines here that instead of us generating more hazardous waste, we actually recycle all that waste material with a single machine that does all that for us. So, proving those kind of systems in the company comes from the top, bottom. But actually dealing with the day to day life here, a person comes mostly from the bottom up because they're always open minded to receive ideas and solutions that might help us improve our Workplace, our workplace environment, and health issues, too.
[00:23:54] André Bezzera: Um, whatever we can do to make the operators work in a more comfortable way, we're always improving that kind of thing.
[00:24:05] David Lee: Andre, so thank you for that description. Obviously, the future looks bright for Petersen. Five years from now, we'll see massive differences, and we can definitely say that that started from, you said, Bottoms?
[00:24:15] David Lee: Up, but I would say mid level up with your expertise and things like that. So good on you there. I'm sure that they'll be very happy with those results. Now, with that being said, before we say goodbye to Andre, let's jump into the final segment, the Fix It Funnies. The Fix is in. It's making a
[00:24:32] André Bezzera: really funny
[00:24:33] David Lee: noise.
[00:24:33] David Lee: I'm gonna fix it. Make it funny would be great, if you could make it funny. Your fate
[00:24:37] André Bezzera: is fixed.
[00:24:39] David Lee: That's what makes it funny. Make sure it's funny. So before we ask you about your favorite winter activity, obviously Sierra Nevada Lake Tahoe is a place that has a large, uh, I would say fandom of people who, uh, would say the same, including myself.
[00:24:55] David Lee: Now, but with, with that being said, we have New Year's right around the corner, which is actually my favorite holiday. What are your plans or what would you like to be doing, uh, and looking forward to for
[00:25:05] André Bezzera: the new year? New Year's Eve is actually my girlfriend's anniversary, so we're always getting together and do sometimes we go to a restaurant that has a nice party or to celebrate New Year's and also her birthday.
[00:25:22] André Bezzera: But we're, we're maybe going to, to Lake Tahoe this year and enjoying the snow and a nice hot cocoa. There you go. That sounds,
[00:25:33] Jake Hall: that sounds awesome. So if you were in the industry, as a next question, if you were in the manufacturing and machining and CNC industry, doing what you do as a mechatronics engineer, what other industry would you want to be in?
[00:25:48] André Bezzera: Oh my god, that's a hard question. I put my heart and soul into technology and developing, but maybe learn a little bit more about investments, learn a little bit more about business. In general, um, uh, and also while traveling and sports, sports like camping and kayaking, go mountain bike, stuff like that. I don't see myself being, doing anything other than dealing with technology, really.
[00:26:26] André Bezzera: There you go.
[00:26:26] David Lee: Nice. Nice. With that being said then, so there, you, you've done a lot of really cool projects and even you were a self starter and, uh, did projects before you were being paid to do so, which shows a lot of passion, right? So is there a, or what would be a dream thing that if you had the opportunity, you had the funding, uh, Unlimited wise, what would you build, what would you bring to Petersen's or just bring to, uh, humanity rather?
[00:26:53] David Lee: Because I know that you, you have something there that you'd be thinking about.
[00:26:56] André Bezzera: Yeah. Yeah. Every scientist now and then starts asking himself that same question and it's kind of hard to to pinpoint exactly one thing or the other but I was When I was a kid, I was very passionate about quantum computers, so building something like that, working on accelerator particles, that would be really cool to do, um, if I could, uh, use a mix of the technology and the physics, uh, that we study, but actually Building something, um, uh, in that area, uh, I think it would be really cool, really amazing.
[00:27:41] André Bezzera: It may be reaching cold fusions, but yeah, that, that sort of answer, it's beyond our own capabilities.
[00:27:52] David Lee: Yeah, for sure. My advisor in college, actually, that was, uh, once upon a time, one of his focuses there. So that's pretty awesome. Andre, thanks for coming on the show, it has been a pleasure to have you. This has been The Maintainers, a Bluecap Community Podcast.
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[00:28:32] Voiceover: Their AI powered condition monitoring and asset management solution predicts machine failures and unplanned downtime, allowing clients to save an average of 10 million every trimester. It's artificial intelligence quarterbacking your maintenance.